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00-amazonfires-brazil.jpg.cf0d6d25dc441e022f2bf81ab55dcc51.jpgThe Amazon Forest is the largest rainforest in the world.  It covers 40% of South America.  It produces an estimated 20% of the world’s oxygen and it acts as an absorber of the world’s C02.  Because of this, it is often referred to as the Earth’s lungs.  It is the place that boasts the most biodiversity on the planet.  But as most of you reading this already know, this month the Amazon has been turned into an inferno as fires that are dangerously out of control continue to burn swaths in the ecosystem there and threaten the entire globe.  To give you a picture of what is happening, imagine a soccer field.  Over one and a half soccer fields of rainforest are being destroyed every minute of every day.  Smoke now covers half of Brazil and is spilling into Peru, Bolivia and Paraguay.

Farmers, loggers and cattle ranchers wait for the months when conditions are dry in order to clear areas of the forest for logging, crops and cattle grazing.  This year, there has been an 80 percent increase in fires, which correspond directly to this seasonal burning. 

2019-06-13t143912z_204790780_rc120cc08300_rtrmadp_3_brazil-politics_0.thumb.jpg.abeec06027a93cc8fb5b9ab477c926bd.jpgBolsonaro (the president of Brazil) is often called the ‘Trump of the Tropics’.  He has nearly eliminated budgets for the agencies that protect the environment.  He has vowed to open the Amazon to development since the beginning of his term.  He promised to finish hydroelectric dams and pave roads that cut through the forest and ‘occupy’ the amazon with development projects.  Bolsonaro, like every leader that has absolutely no interest in preservation of the environment is decidedly on the side of the personal gain of the people he identifies with.  The farmers and ranchers that call the Amazon home were thrilled with Bolsonaro’s election.  From the perspective of an Amazon farmer or rancher, they had been sent there in the 70’s to develop the Amazon only to be turned against as if they are the enemy.  From their perspective, the environmentalist types that occupy the main cities and other parts of the globe, wish to condemn them and their families to destitution, treating them like criminals.  From their perspective, the way they are expected to farm in order to preserve the Amazon is impossible and certainly wont put food on the table or put their children through college.  Bolsonaro’s election and rhetoric as well as his dismantling of protection agencies has eliminated their fear of consequence for acting in their own best interests and has allowed the caged powerlessness and rage that they have felt over the past years to be let loose.  

867098510_lead_9602.jpg.986fbf57554c2937e619c38b2c372fd5.jpgWhat is happening in the Amazon Rainforest has incredible implications.  There is a phenomena called dieback.  If this deforestation caused by fires, heats up the forest to a threshold, it will trigger droughts, floods and wildfires.  Over half of the rainforest could die permanently.  It could change the weather patterns all over South America and release billions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere.  This is not just a problem for Brazil or for South America.  This is a problem for the entire planet.  Up to 90 percent of the loss of tropical rainforest around the world is due to this same kind of ‘land clearing’ that is now threatening the Amazon.  Global climate change is already a huge threat to life on earth.  Now, instead of the Amazon being a main defense against global climate change, it may very well turn into one of its great contributors. 

People have been begging me to do a video or article this week on what is happening in Brazil and explain the energetic perspective and ‘reality’ behind it.  I have hesitated until now, because the reality is not one that most people are likely to swallow.  But at this point, I find that I am past caring and would rather cater to the few that will swallow it.  Unfortunately, those people are already ‘in the know’ so it is a bit like preaching to the choir.                    

a7f6562eb48ed0a68477f3b539957bfa.jpg.29bd799708d205347fd4ee43c938f580.jpgThe first thing I must share is a harsh truth.  People love to say, “we are destroying earth” as if humans can currently destroy earth.  This is nothing more than the human ego being completely out of touch with reality by striving for its own significance.  Earth as a being in and of itself, whose physical manifestation is the blue planet we call home, will not be destroyed by humans.  In keeping with the analogy people use of the Amazon rainforest being the planet’s lugs, I will explain the Earth and humanity as if the earth were a human.  The earth loves what is a part of itself.  This includes humans.  But the relationship that the earth has with people is a-kin the relationship people have to bacteria.  Some species of bacteria (especially if its numbers grow out of control) are responsible for the most nefarious disease.  On the other hand, many species of bacteria have co-evolved with people and play essential roles for the wellbeing of the body.  At any given time, these microbes that live inside of a person have the potential to live harmoniously or to cause illness.  Humans are much like bacteria to the earth.   

At this current time, humanity cannot destroy the planet itself.  But it can completely alter the surface of the earth, a layer that can be likened to ‘skin’.  Unfortunately, this is the layer that we and billions of other life forms call home and cannot survive without.  At our best, humans are a symbiotic organism.  At our worst, we are a parasite.  We cannot survive without our host, which is the skin layer of earth.  And yet, because we play zero sum games, we will corrupt the very thing that we cannot survive without.

ZeroSum.jpg.41e1a71d4f57ebefce13c3a225c63118.jpgA zero sum game is “I win and you lose”.  It is the opposite of love.  To love is to take something as a part of yourself.  When you do this, you cannot harm something without harming yourself too.  This is what makes a relationship safe.  But people have not learned love.  Instead, they perceive themselves to be separate.  What is happening right now in the Amazon is just one more example of why I wrote The Anatomy Of Loneliness.  Loneliness, which is the perception of separation, has serious implications for life on earth.  If I perceive separation, I can be a farmer who burns down the Amazon without perceiving that this is going to hurt me.  If I perceive separation, I can be an environmentalist who is not focused on solving the problems the Amazon farmers are facing, because if the farmers hurt, it’s not going to hurt me. 

People ask me often “what is the greatest thing I can do to end global climate change?”  My answer is the same as it is when people ask me “what is the greatest thing I can do to have a good relationship?”  The answer is to end the zero sum game.  In this case, it is to end the zero sum game with the earth.  Ask yourself, where in my life am I winning and by winning, some part of the environment is losing?  How can I make it a win-win instead? 

I realize that ending the zero sum game is difficult because it will seem that it is impossible to eliminate harm without harming yourself in some way.  But if your goal is to end the zero sum game, you can often see a way to be symbiotic rather than parasitic.  Humanity only has a future if the companies that sustain society’s way of life begin to do this as well.  But seeing as how most people don’t own or run those companies, what we can do is to focus on doing this in our own individual lives. 

688956036_Tealonair.jpg.309fa933751244bcf0f61a3dcf267bb1.jpgSo that you can understand this concept, I will give you an example from my own life.  It is not an option for most people to pay to get on a plane and come to see me in person wherever I am anchored in the world.  For this reason, it is critical that I fly to different parts of the globe.  Until a company figures out a method of travel that does not negatively impact the globe, this puts me in a zero sum game against the environment.  As someone who wishes to live symbiotically with all things, this makes it impossible to feel good boarding a plane.  Based on what happens in the world, there may be a day where I can no longer justify boarding a plane.  The reason I can justify boarding the plane at this point is because I am teaching humanity to awaken.  I am teaching the end of the zero sum game, which is the very thing causing environmental collapse in the first place.  At this point, I am contributing to the environment more by boarding a plane than I would be by not boarding one.  But I have decided that to call myself an environmental advocate, I cannot justify boarding a plane for vacation.  It is something that I will not do.  And on top of this, I will ‘offset’ the impact in some way.  For example, whenever I take a trip on an airplane, I can contribute to one of the many carbon reduction organizations or projects around the world, such as third world country cook stove projects, re-forestation projects, free energy development research, solar power projects and landfill cleanup to name just a few. 

shutterstock_1395300746.thumb.jpg.905b30817665261c4a8e4b171eb9d353.jpgEnvironmental destruction and global climate change may feel like it is beyond your direct control.  There is a powerlessness in seeing images of monkey mothers holding the charred remains of their baby monkeys, jaguars forced into the water and lush green being consumed by flames.  Most people who care don’t know what to do.  For this reason, I am going to offer a list of the four most important things you can do about it all. 

1. End your zero sum games with everyone and everything in your life.  Look for the win-win in all situations.  This is a practice that you can live your life by and it is the most important practice that a human can commit to at this point within the human timeline. 

2. Educate yourself about the environment and about how to reduce your personal environmental impact.

3. Support anything that is in-alignment with environmental wellbeing and withdraw your support for things that are not in alignment with environmental wellbeing.  This means buy products that are cruelty free, green certified and recycled for example.  Use re-usable grocery bags when you go to the store.  As well as re-usable containers. 

4. Eliminate or reduce your carbon footprint in any way you can.  Conserve energy and switch to renewable energy.  Seriously evaluate the flying and driving that you do in order to reduce fuel use as much as possible.  Conserve water and keep water clean.  Save electricity.  When new technologies are developed which are better for the environment, buy them and use them. 

5. Vote for and support political candidates that prioritize environmental preservation.  Sign petitions.  Have fewer children or none and support family planning organizations in developing nations. 

6. Eat responsibly.  Buy and eat locally grown foods.  And go vegan.  Eating less meat is now a matter of environmental urgency, not just moral conscience. Farm animals emit methane, which is a greenhouse gas that contributes to global climate change.  Raising animals for food requires SO much more land and water than growing plant based food crops does.  In fact, livestock now uses up 30 percent of the planet’s land surface.  On top of that, the fields that could be used to grow crops to feed humans are used to grow mono-crops to feed these animals instead.  It is estimated that every time you eat a plant-based meal instead of an animal-based meal, you protect between 12 to 50 square feet of land from deforestation, pesticide and fertilizer pollution and overgrazing.  You also save about 280 gallons of water.

7. Commit yourself to ‘right livelihood’.  The justification people use for doing things that harm other things is personal gain.  If we find ourselves in the position of realizing that our personal gain is something else’s loss, we need to switch the way we are making money so that we are no longer making money through a zero sum game.  This means that some businesses need to go out of business and as a society we need to help replace them and help the people who are in these zero-sum businesses to transition to something else.          

8. Contribute to Organizations that are dedicated to environmental wellbeing.  Unless you are called to personally volunteer or work for an organization that is dedicated to environmental wellbeing, contribute in any way you can to these organizations.  As it applies to the current crisis in the Amazon Rainforest, The Amazon Conservation Team, The Rainforest Trust, The Amazon Conservation Association, The Rainforest Action Network, One Tree Planted, The Rainforest Alliance and The Rainforest Foundation are key players where your contribution is needed. 

shutterstock_1380858797.thumb.jpg.842ef25219da9373e0a960d88be741b4.jpgBecause we perceive ourselves to be separate, things do not bother us until it impacts us in a perceivable way and personally.  The problem with global climate change and all other types of environmental destruction is that for most of us, it exists as a simple warning.  A warning we think applies to other people, not us.  Most people see it as something that might/could happen in the future.  It is not something that has sent us into crisis mode yet and so we continue to contribute to it.  We don’t do something about a problem until it threatens ‘I, or mine or ours’.  As countries, we don’t step into genocides or wars until those conflicts threaten something that is important to our country.  As individuals, we can trash a hotel room because it isn’t our house.  But what we are not seeing is that when we choose our personal best interests over the best interests of the environment, we are the parasite that kills our host organism; and by doing so, kills ourselves. 

The reality is that the current life path potentials of human life on earth look bleak.  They look like companies not changing so long as they are making money and therefore sinking the very ship they sail on.  They look like people continuing to support mono-culture and using pesticides until there is no more food in the grocery stores.  The reality is that by the time environmental destruction becomes something that perceivably threatens the average citizen, it will be too late.  For this reason and many others, awakening is no longer a luxury for the human race.  It is a necessity.                        

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Well thought. I would add that there need to be more action versus activism. Be the actor and not the activist.

A difference between depending on someone or something else to make all our problems go away (often with a donation or a grant) and someone actually demonstrating by personal action. I guess, in your language, this is a form of integrating people through authentic individual action.  Start a new authentic venture to solve the problems, not some organization in which you have no real involvement with like the government or Greenpeace. That is a surefire way to move in the opposite direction that will ultimately spirals into corruption and apathy and away from founding goals. It not that businesses and organizations as currently structured are bad. Its that they lack the flexibility and self correcting nature of individuals. Even the founders of America understood this. They put a lot of chains on the powers of the government for a reason.

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It funny how this was kind of pattern is demonstrated with a business. Boscovs. Original a family business in which the owner, retired and handed to his kids to run. Big mistake. Kids changed the business so much from what made it a success, that there was a buyback by the founder to keep the company from ruin.  The owner took personal action to preserve what he had built. Personal skin in the game.

 

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I have to share what we are doing. I started a marketplace, called Verdant Trade, for businesses to purchase wholesale goods that are ethically and sustainably produced. One of the products we carry, called Peaceful Fruits, directly address Teal's description of the solution.  It's a totally organic fruit bar,  that pays good wages to farmers who life in and around the rainforest, so they can harvest the naturally growing fruits in forest and they don't have to resort to clear cutting. Win, win, win. 

https://peacefulfruits.verdanttrade.com

If you have happen to know any retail businesses or similar who would like to carry this, please send them to our store. We have other products like this and will continue to get more. 

If you feel inspired by this and would like to help or get involved, please contact me at kleventhal@verdanttrade.com

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Yay!!! A superb rendering into words what is occurring with the climate Catastrophe 👏👏👏👏👏 I feel gratitude to hear your take and suggestions about flying. It rings true 💚

I know that I speak for many of us when I say how overjoyed it feels to hear you say the words "go Vegan"!  Could you hear the joyful resounding YES!!! from all your vegan fans?! 😆 Thank you, Teal! 

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Great wise words Teal. Thank you for writing this and allowing myself and others to read it.
The world needs more of humanity to learn, see, live and be conscious like you.  We need to remember we are the guardians of this planet, to live, love, protect and co-create with Gaia. Bless you great Soul  ❤️ ❤️❤️ 

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On 8/26/2019 at 7:10 PM, michael scordato said:

Teal, do you think there is any prayer that would help? Would it help to ask God to have people reincarnate on other planets that are more appropriate to their spiritual evolution, or asking that people be reincarnated into animal lifetimes so they don't suffer the difficulties of making stressful human free-will decisions.

What!
Teal has said is there's an actual need for action not for thoughts. Do something, not pray like a powerless victim. 
Asking God is like doing a positive affirmation that the train bearing down on you will stop in time, all the while, your foot is caught in the tracks. It won't stop in time.
In a way, what we are now faced with is: the best you can do is lean as far away from the track as possible, get as flat as possible; and hope like hell that works so the wheels only cut your foot off and it saves the rest of you from being smeared and ground into the dirt. 

And the Brazilian power monger - he refused the G8 millions and help they offered to put the fires out. Duh.

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13 hours ago, Crystal Rob said:

What!
Teal has said is there's an actual need for action not for thoughts. Do something, not pray like a powerless victim. 
Asking God is like doing a positive affirmation that the train bearing down on you will stop in time, all the while, your foot is caught in the tracks. It won't stop in time.
In a way, what we are now faced with is: the best you can do is lean as far away from the track as possible, get as flat as possible; and hope like hell that works so the wheels only cut your foot off and it saves the rest of you from being smeared and ground into the dirt. 

And the Brazilian power monger - he refused the G8 millions and help they offered to put the fires out. Duh.

Did Teal ask you to represent her? Anyway I never said not to act,

and Teal has done a video on how to pray. 

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Loved the point about ending the zero-sum game. That's the kicker. Even if we think that our side is "right", as long we keep making enemies of the politicians in various countries (admittedly disturbing though some of them are), we are still playing the same old game that has gotten us into this mess in the first place. So I don't know that we can learn to see our natural environment as part of us when we cannot even do that with other people.

The response to things like this is often, "Down with X politician!", the one who is "causing" the problem. And they may very well be, but it's still a zero-sum game; the parameters of the discourse (and thus, by definition, the psychology underlying it) has not shifted. All that's happened is that another "enemy" has been identified, another monster created. Easy to see that it's ultimately the same old game in a (marginally) different guise. Besides, human nature being what it is, when we attack someone else, what do they do? What do you do? They/you retaliate. Thus, by continuing to attack other people (verbally or otherwise), we preclude the very outcomes we are seeking because we have closed off the possibility of dialogue and cooperation.

If you, Teal, I or anyone else wants change for the better, then it is not about what "they" must or must not do; it's about what we do. How do we open the door for dialogue? Only our egos do not like that: "Why should I treat them with civility and decency when they are the problem?" Why? Because it's the only way forward. (Besides, they are asking themselves that very same question in relation to you!) If they will not make the first move, then we have to. There may be another way, of course, but I at least do not see one. Loving your friends and other people who agree with you is easy. We can all bask in the warm glow of a Teal Swan comments section and feel that we are safe amongst kindred spirits. Again, easy (suspiciously so, I dare say!). But the rubber really meets the road when we can do that with the people we dislike. That's where the growth (and the shift) happens. Can you be nice to a dickhead today? (And remember this: like it or not, no matter how "enlightened" or "spiritual" we may think we are, each and every one of us is someone's dickhead! It's not a one-way street.) That's the real litmus test, the real game-changer.

Surely all of us have noticed at times that when we address one area of our lives and move in a more productive direction, certain other things begin to shift as well (and it works in the opposite direction, too, ergo the Amazon just so happening to burn in the Trump Age). There tend to be loads of downstream positive results in areas that we were not even addressing head-on. Same with this. If we start to treat others, however repellent on the surface, with civility and respect and genuine care and concern and compassion, the downstream positive outcomes (including those for the natural environment) will be more numerous than we can count or even anticipate in advance. And we may not be so far off the mark, anyway. After all, if every single person on the face of the earth were to keep a ledger sheet for one outlining the number of times that they treated others with kindness and respect or lashed out and harmed others, the former would outnumber the latter many times over. Only we watch the news, which makes its money from scaring us, not from encouraging us and are led to the only logical conclusion: "We are f----d." While that may be a logical conclusion, it is not the only logical conclusion.

If the politicians in America, Brazil, Britain, North Korea, Australia, etc. all need to "lose" in order for me to "win", then I truly am f----d! Not just because they are in a stronger position than me, either, but also because I don't really care to see what them "crashing and burning" would look like on a global scale! Because if you think that they would not take others down with them...! Talk about "unwanted downstream effects"! Yikes! 

Finally, since all of us here are humans and, to varying degrees, spiritual seekers, we all love nothing more than to roll around in the mud of "we're f----d". So let's go there! Let's assume that nothing that we can do will in any way halt a slide into the apocalypse. I can only speak for myself, but as the first mushroom cloud appears on the horizon, if I can honestly say to myself that I did my level best to treat others, especially those whose faces I would sooner bash in with a brick, with respect and dignity, then I can at least find a measure of peace knowing that, if nothing else, I did right by my own soul.

It's "not going down without a fight" because I chose not to fight.

Is that the best of all possible outcomes? Not by a long shot.

Is it the worst?

Not by a long shot.

(Food for thought, perhaps...and also a welcome reminder to get up and launch my world peace social media campaign!)

Peace to you all!

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Why did the universe create free will if it was only able or willing to tolerate a small subset of outcomes arising from it?  To call something "tragic" or "wrong" or "a mistake," we have to wrap it in a framework that defines what right and wrong are.  When that framework begins to progressively mirror the political American left wing more and more precisely, then the ultimate outcome that framework will lead to is not difficult to forecast.  To protest something, you must become it.  You cannot influence anything whose frequency you don't match.  Anti-war protests become war zones.  Labor unions become mafias.  For a minority to control the majority - or strive to control it - based on a framework for right and wrong that is, at best, defined only locally to that minority - it is tyranny that is being aspired to.  It is anybody's natural right to aspire to anything they choose, including tyranny, minority rule, etc. but in the end, humanity was created to be humanity and all aspects of that are fair game.  We are given no rule book, no user's guide, and no instruction.  We are thrown down here to figure it out.  How much adherence can be expected to boundaries that were never declared except by a certain subset of some cultures?  Perhaps addressing the unfathomable hell that humans are thrust into is a more worthwhile pastime than becoming a mouthpiece for all AOC stands for.  Nobody ever promised the rain forests would last forever and exactly who says they're supposed to?  How do they know?

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On 9/15/2019 at 12:45 PM, bartcolen said:

Loved the point about ending the zero-sum game. That's the kicker. Even if we think that our side is "right", as long we keep making enemies of the politicians in various countries (admittedly disturbing though some of them are), we are still playing the same old game that has gotten us into this mess in the first place. So I don't know that we can learn to see our natural environment as part of us when we cannot even do that with other people.

The response to things like this is often, "Down with X politician!", the one who is "causing" the problem. And they may very well be, but it's still a zero-sum game; the parameters of the discourse (and thus, by definition, the psychology underlying it) has not shifted. All that's happened is that another "enemy" has been identified, another monster created. Easy to see that it's ultimately the same old game in a (marginally) different guise. Besides, human nature being what it is, when we attack someone else, what do they do? What do you do? They/you retaliate. Thus, by continuing to attack other people (verbally or otherwise), we preclude the very outcomes we are seeking because we have closed off the possibility of dialogue and cooperation.

If you, Teal, I or anyone else wants change for the better, then it is not about what "they" must or must not do; it's about what we do. How do we open the door for dialogue? Only our egos do not like that: "Why should I treat them with civility and decency when they are the problem?" Why? Because it's the only way forward. (Besides, they are asking themselves that very same question in relation to you!) If they will not make the first move, then we have to. There may be another way, of course, but I at least do not see one. Loving your friends and other people who agree with you is easy. We can all bask in the warm glow of a Teal Swan comments section and feel that we are safe amongst kindred spirits. Again, easy (suspiciously so, I dare say!). But the rubber really meets the road when we can do that with the people we dislike. That's where the growth (and the shift) happens. Can you be nice to a dickhead today? (And remember this: like it or not, no matter how "enlightened" or "spiritual" we may think we are, each and every one of us is someone's dickhead! It's not a one-way street.) That's the real litmus test, the real game-changer.

Surely all of us have noticed at times that when we address one area of our lives and move in a more productive direction, certain other things begin to shift as well (and it works in the opposite direction, too, ergo the Amazon just so happening to burn in the Trump Age). There tend to be loads of downstream positive results in areas that we were not even addressing head-on. Same with this. If we start to treat others, however repellent on the surface, with civility and respect and genuine care and concern and compassion, the downstream positive outcomes (including those for the natural environment) will be more numerous than we can count or even anticipate in advance. And we may not be so far off the mark, anyway. After all, if every single person on the face of the earth were to keep a ledger sheet for one outlining the number of times that they treated others with kindness and respect or lashed out and harmed others, the former would outnumber the latter many times over. Only we watch the news, which makes its money from scaring us, not from encouraging us and are led to the only logical conclusion: "We are f----d." While that may be a logical conclusion, it is not the only logical conclusion.

If the politicians in America, Brazil, Britain, North Korea, Australia, etc. all need to "lose" in order for me to "win", then I truly am f----d! Not just because they are in a stronger position than me, either, but also because I don't really care to see what them "crashing and burning" would look like on a global scale! Because if you think that they would not take others down with them...! Talk about "unwanted downstream effects"! Yikes! 

Finally, since all of us here are humans and, to varying degrees, spiritual seekers, we all love nothing more than to roll around in the mud of "we're f----d". So let's go there! Let's assume that nothing that we can do will in any way halt a slide into the apocalypse. I can only speak for myself, but as the first mushroom cloud appears on the horizon, if I can honestly say to myself that I did my level best to treat others, especially those whose faces I would sooner bash in with a brick, with respect and dignity, then I can at least find a measure of peace knowing that, if nothing else, I did right by my own soul.

It's "not going down without a fight" because I chose not to fight.

Is that the best of all possible outcomes? Not by a long shot.

Is it the worst?

Not by a long shot.

(Food for thought, perhaps...and also a welcome reminder to get up and launch my world peace social media campaign!)

Peace to you all!

What stimulating and awesome insight.  A comment that is much appreciated.  It is so completely robotic to act out our programming and declare that any mark we leave on this Earth for our having been here is bad and must be corrected.  Maybe that's not the case.  Maybe this is our home and we're supposed to use it.  

The Earth is not stupid.  Clear the Amazon and new rain forests will emerge elsewhere.  Maybe that kind of change is exactly what's needed, for whatever reason.  That possibility is never discussed by the doomsayers.

Ultimately there is an enormous allure to getting on one's high horse and declaring everybody else is leading us to doom but I am so gifted and special that I see the error of ways that the lowly common man beneath me is lost within.  Look to me, my lowly children, and I will guide you to the light!

We are human.  Perhaps our job is to be human and stop apologizing every time a pebble is overturned, when it would not have been overturned were we never here.  This is our home.  It will be lived in.  Who dictates what our home is supposed to look like?  A select few?  And why them? 

If I walked through the Amazon, it would kill me in minutes via any number of ways - and it would do so with no regard for morality.  It cannot expect better in return.  What was there before the current rain forest destroyed it and took over that land?  We are not a mistake, and how we evolve is neither a mistake that needs correcting.  Change is constant; resistance is futile.  Maybe the Borg are taking over the Amazon.  Maybe it's compensatory for Amazon.com taking over everything else.

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On 9/19/2019 at 9:47 AM, CMalcheski said:

What stimulating and awesome insight.  A comment that is much appreciated.  It is so completely robotic to act out our programming and declare that any mark we leave on this Earth for our having been here is bad and must be corrected.  Maybe that's not the case.  Maybe this is our home and we're supposed to use it.  

The Earth is not stupid.  Clear the Amazon and new rain forests will emerge elsewhere.  Maybe that kind of change is exactly what's needed, for whatever reason.  That possibility is never discussed by the doomsayers.

Ultimately there is an enormous allure to getting on one's high horse and declaring everybody else is leading us to doom but I am so gifted and special that I see the error of ways that the lowly common man beneath me is lost within.  Look to me, my lowly children, and I will guide you to the light!

We are human.  Perhaps our job is to be human and stop apologizing every time a pebble is overturned, when it would not have been overturned were we never here.  This is our home.  It will be lived in.  Who dictates what our home is supposed to look like?  A select few?  And why them? 

If I walked through the Amazon, it would kill me in minutes via any number of ways - and it would do so with no regard for morality.  It cannot expect better in return.  What was there before the current rain forest destroyed it and took over that land?  We are not a mistake, and how we evolve is neither a mistake that needs correcting.  Change is constant; resistance is futile.  Maybe the Borg are taking over the Amazon.  Maybe it's compensatory for Amazon.com taking over everything else.

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@Garnet

Excellent comment. Let me buttress the points made and add some interesting related concepts ......

Lets start with a look at the Sahara desert. It is a relatively new ecosystem, a savanna with rivers that changed between 1000 years ago to 8000 years ago. The cause is still debated. One cause relates the change to the change in the tilt of the earth's axis, a natural occurrence. There has also been discussions about how earthquakes  and volcanic eruptions may be seen as a contributing factors.  Recent digs with the aid of satellite data to look at whats under the sand led researchers discovery of the skeletons of ancient plants and animals typically found in the savannas, including crocodiles skeletal remains. How fast these changes occurs is still debated too, some estimates include an initial slow change with a speedup during  the last 300 years.

http://www.messagetoeagle.com/changed-green-sahara-desert/

Lets turn our attention to the year without a summer that caused worldwide crop failures and accompanying famine. It was caused by a volcanic eruption. I'm sure many have heard of the eruption of Krakatoa in 1883. This isn't the one.  Go back a little further to 1815/1816 and lets talk about the eruption of Mount Tambor in April of 1815.  Krakatoa was big, but this one was bigger yet and the effects would take a full year to come to fruition.

https://www.thoughtco.com/mount-tambora-1773768

Nature is awesome, both wonderful and horrifying. We need to face the reality of the environment.  Change is inevitable. Big changes from time to time, that you have zero control over. You roll with it or get broken and crushed. Focusing on minutia will lead to extinction and death. We need flexibility. Yin and Yang in harmony. Creation and destruction are a part of life. 

The entire planet is a lung, not just the Amazon. It's not even as big a deal as the algae of the oceans. 75% of the planet is water. That also acts as a sponge for carbon dioxide. Its a living and changing system.  Volcanoes release carbon dioxide, among other pollutants (depending on whether you are plant, bacteria or animals) and the sea bed are replete with the releases of methane (sometimes oil as well). All of it natural and to a scale unmatched by man or beast. This living system seems to be very adaptive as well. There are constantly changing levels a microorganisms at work cleaning the waters. Do you remember the oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico crisis?  Now the Amazon represents a small, very small part of this tapestry.  Isn't it funny how plant growth is enhanced and reinforced by the production of carbon dioxide.  We actually feed the plants as do the cattle. Funny I though buffalo roamed the prairies long before the white man came to America (my ancestors did have some bad habits). In return, the plants and OTHER organisms produce oxygen.

Not this is not to diminish the fact that we should still be good 'flexible' stewards. But change is inevitable and should not be stifled purely by fear.

Let us step back from fear mongering and ask more questions from both side of the argument. Separate fiction from non-fiction.  Weave into that the self interest and motivations on both sides.

We have had a constant cycle of fear-mongering for decades..... to what end. The ends do not always justify the ends.  That becomes evident when a role reversal occurs.

Below is a short list of sudden end of world crisis arising since before I was born. This is not my list, but I do remember reading about most of the earlier ones and experiencing many thereafter:

1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
1970: Ice Age By 2000
1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
1970s: Killer Bees!
1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
1972: New Ice Age By 2070
1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
1974: Another Ice Age?
1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
1980: Peak Oil In 2000
1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
1996: Peak Oil in 2020
2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
2002: Peak Oil in 2010
2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
2006: Super Hurricanes!
2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’

If you really want to know why push false narratives, just follow the money trail and self interest gigs.

Could I force people to buy a replacement refrigerant because the current one has become too cheap? MONEY & SELF INTEREST. (Ozone crisis and subsequent banning of CFC's)

Could I force people to stop drilling for oil because it has become too cheap to support my business and life style? MONEY & SELF INTEREST. (Oil crisis. How many time are we told we can't possibly continue because we are going to run out or for some other reason. It all excuses to keep the supply locked up so I can make money.)

As for being a good steward to our planet. Be careful of the ideologies you choose. I like Socrates tradition of questioning everything. 

Socialism is a sure path to our destruction. It is rigid and inflexible. Everyone is treated like cookie cutter spirits. It also promises a false sense of security. After all, each person is no different than the person standing next to them.Right?. A lie of course.  Is some ways it reflects nature's laws, which do apply to most of us. I need blood flowing through my veins, air to breathe, water to drink and food to eat. But that is the extent of it. (Nature's law also includes things like right to defend oneself, right to speak one's thoughts by the way.) We are such a flexible species, to live and thrive in so many different environment, but our needs within these unique places will differ and there will be plenty of occasions for a conflict of interest to present itself as a result of that. Do not be fooled by the news of the day. You'll often hear the term corporate capitalism. It is not. It is corporate socialism. How many of you feel like just a number when dealing with many corporations in today's world. No. 109283.  That's a cookie cutter effect.

Capitalism is at its core. Simply trading and bartering. You have something I would like to have. I have something you would like to have. We trade and I will try my best to get the best deal for myself as will you for yourself. It has that flexibility to allow for our difference and we can haggle over that. Socialism would have a hard time doing that as that would require you to acknowledge I am different and living in a different situation. So who the hell decides which situation is more important, No 109283? Who has to enforce the give and take. Can you save slave? Serf? That's the language of socialism. We might as well remain as wards of the state or children. I think I'll pass on that and keep my capitalist ways.

Now neither of these philosophies can be defined as being more .... generous, humane, compassionate, etc......those are separate issues altogether. What I can say is that socialism can and will at some point fail to meet your needs,  more often with deadly consequences.  On the other hand, capitalism may reach an irreconcilable impasse...which can lead to war and conflict.

I choose a path of flexibility not security. I prefer free will over control any day.

It's really weird when the attempt is made to equate veganism and/or the consumption of raw foods to saving the planet.  This playful idea is ridiculous. There are better more valid reason for one to try veganism than this nonsense.

So many conflicting issues in this unproductive 'feud'.  Are plants more important than animals?  How many tomatoes will never see tomorrow because of your salad?

Is it because you fail to hear the screaming as the fruit is plucked from the mother plant. (This is all non-judgemental sarcasm).

I am an omnivore. I read some interesting theories on evolution as it relates to diet. I'll give you a taste of a few. Don't take them as gospel, as they are, after-all,  only theories.

 

A. Anthropologist were trying to figure out why our species of hominids appeared to suddenly emerge as the winner of this evolutionary round.

What is Human? by Naked Science  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaW8hQWOy-0

One disappointing shortcoming of this video is: What about Neanderthals?

 

B. Some more interesting information I have perused on the human anatomy.

1. Changes in the human skull since the industrial revolution(250 years)

https://onezero.medium.com/our-skulls-are-out-evolving-us-and-that-could-mean-a-public-health-crisis-f950faed696d

2. Changes to the human intestines and a comparison to other primates.  Intestine length can give you an idea of what one eats. Shorter intestines are not conducive to a plant diet.

https://deniseminger.com/2010/03/18/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part-2/

 

C. An interesting twist: How cooking has influenced and enhanced our human diets and our big beautiful brains.  Looks like fire was a good thing.

We aren't true carnivores. I read that true carnivores can eat carrion (spoiled meat) to some degree. We can't. It must be fresh or stored in specific ways.

We aren't true herbivores either. So what the hell are we? Maybe something new? 

 

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2016/03/12/without-fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcR6sbYH9GY

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-fire-makes-us-human-72989884/?all

 

What I take from this is that we humans have developed a very adaptive and enhanced digestive system to survive on both plant and animal.  We can choose what works for us depending on our environment. That is a pretty cool notion.

Don't stop listening to your heart, but don't ignore you mind either. Things are not always what they seem....we have much to learn and evolve into.

 

 

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 Thank you Teal.  I love it when you tell it like it is =  which is always.  I like to listen to the comedian George Carlin and he agrees with you about the human arrogance of thinking we can destroy Earth...; he realizes, in his inimitable way, that it will be we who are destroyed instead. He points out that all matter , all material, comes ultimately from Earth... even plastic.

I am fruitarian.

I love being so because it provides the solution for many  ills: eating fruit that drops from the (bio) trees creates no waste because there is no packaging. You return the seed to Earth to nourish, in turn, the being who nourished you. Isn't that beautiful reciprocity?! 

Being Fruitarian means Earth will once again be  covered in forest since all it requires is TREES!!!  and plenty of them... 

Being fruitarian means you get all the water you need, since fruit, being your natural food, contains the most water of any food, just as your body contains mostly water. It would mean the end of the need for countless plastic bottles of water you have to cart around because YOu wouldn't have excessive thirst from eating overly spicey, overly salty or overly breaded and processed unnatural foods.

By eating fruitarian, over time, your body purifies to such an extent that literally, your shit no longer stinks!! Your feces are not as toxic as otherwise and so you are not contributing to  water or ground pollution at any point.

Being fruitarian means no cruelty to any living being. Trees literally serve up their fruit as an offering; the  tree continues to live . So no life is taken. Your sustenance does not come at the cost of suffering or death to another. Isn't that beautiful?  And talk about zero sum game, this is win=win for all... and delivers the least (or zero) impact on Earth of any lifestyle the human could lead.

I am so grateful everyday to my body who told me she was ready for only fruit ... about 8 years ago and it has given me ( and EArth) only blessings galore since...)

 

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On 8/25/2019 at 8:41 PM, uclasteven1 said:

It's so unbelievable that the ignorance around this continues. Fortunately groups also continue to raise awareness to counteract this insanity toward our planet.  Emphasizing a vegan and local diet is so much appreciated. I am slowly hearing it more after being a vegetarian for 35 years (and more recently almost vegan.)

I love the view that us referring to the rainforest as the lungs of the planet is egocentric.  After seeing it as a good analogy for people to relate to, I now have shifted my perspective.

 

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Teal, can you please ask the people promoting the global warming agenda(Google execs, Al Gore, Royal Family, George Soros, Tom Steyer, and on and on and on) to stop flying their private jets to parties on Tahiti or to Bilderburg conferences.  Or maybe they could drive a Toyota Corolla to Bohemian Grove rather than their Lamborginis, God forbid.  Maybe you could expose the Club of Rome for scheming environmental catastrophe narratives to create fear in the public.  

Or maybe you could address those go-green soccer moms who sit at the bus stop in their large SUVs, engines running so their children don't  have to brave a 10 degree temp differential, because when I drive by them on my way to work in my little Ford Focus, I'm liable to notice their hypocrisy.  

Maybe you could expose Al Gore for having 5 homes, one for display purposes with all his alternate energy equipment, since the public is too f-ing dumb to question the reporting and ask if he maybe he has other homes with NO alternate energy devices.  

As long as we are blue-pilled on the total lack of integrity of our elite, it's not going to matter a f-ck whether we conserve or not.

And what non-conflicted group of scientists are you getting your info from?  The power brokers of the world (the ones that profit from the carbon credit futures and want to globally tax our energy usage) have infiltrated all significant organizations with bribes, kickbacks and blackmail.  

BTW I am a huge fan of yours, but on these types of issues it's hard for me to see you so naive to the wiles of the nefarious world power brokers and their agents.  Are we their farm animals?!

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