Lioness

Hi Bananas28, I don't know if you saw my earlier comments but we share the experience that this was not being handled in the right way. I'm happy to see that someone else is seeing it too, since I started to wonder(a tiny bit) if I was being completely off, though I really actually felt sick as I watched the video, I'm feeling confident in my opinion. As you are writing I am hoping it was just a plain mistake, like you're saying, though for me I would've liked some type of accountability for how it went. I have tremendous respect for Teal and her teachings(she is literally my idol). This is making it even harder for me to see this. I'm feeling disappointed cause I would hope that everybody that comes in to contact to her would be met with respect and not risk getting retraumatized. Like you said, again, I'm really hoping it was a mistake from her side, though I am very concerned since I have, like you, seen more videos where there has in my opinion been a lack of respect. Especially I have seen people that are non-white not being treated as nicely as people that are white. This has made me super sad, cause treating people equally(or nicely, or with respect), is something people of colour experience more and have more trauma around(especially from white people. People being treated fairly and nicely should be at the fore front of any social movement/creating societal change, since this is something that hurts people's every day life anyway, always. Also I think, being a spiritual teacher, who is advocating for oneness and believing in people's innate worth(everyone has a soul purpose etc), a tendency of not treating people equally means also a lack of integrity. I'm like, you Banana28(haha), are mentioning it is important to speak up and not just follow blindly, cause otherwise it is just a cult if we can't question, ask for accountability etc. I wish to see an answer from the Team in this section, to see what they(you) have to say, since I'm hoping that equality(everyone's right to be treated with respect), as well as accountability and integrity is something you value too. I want to be able to keep following Teal and do so with integrity, and for me that is knowing that all people are of the same value and will be treated with respect and care in this community. Thank you for reading. /Lioness

Also, she told him first that getting a stage is going indirectly for meeting his own needs, but than she says get your own stage. And then in the end he asks how getting a stage is meeting his needs directly, which is a very valid question given he has gotten different answer, but gets back that he is draining her energy. That is very confusing and unfair, and I believe, very detrimental and can really exacerbate his trauma.

Really though? Look at it again. From the beginning he is trying to tell her things: About how painful it is risk loosing his close ones(he even starts crying), then she interrupts him, so he can't process it. He also is having very clear symptoms of dissociation - Going from being present(looking her in the eyes, smiling etc) to not being able to articulate what he wants, looking down on the floor, trouble with eye contact. To me it really don't seem like he is pretending to be in pain; He was in pain and really needed help. And also, if the case is that he was there to manipulate his way to significance(like you are saying), that's not "pretending to be in pain", that is pain. That is pain for sure. So either way, it's detrimental to get to hear that "You are taking up the stage and manipulating us to get attention". Either way he is not getting the help he needs and what's worse, getting shamed for being who he is, which is traumatic.

Ye But she “has the stage” to help people and did she really help him? Become more comfortable with going directly for his needs? By feeling okay to leave some of his close relationships behind?(He cried when telling this, so obviously that was a problem he needed help with). I found it disturbing how she handled it(it is retraumatizing to get shamed by hearing “manipulating them all to take up the stage”, which makes the going for the need of significance even harder), so instead of helping him, making him feel bad about it. To me that’s not how you deal with someone in pain and honestly disrespectful. if someone have an insight that I am missing, I’m open to hearing otger inputs. Also hoping that the Team will get back to this, since I really have high regards to all this content and I’m hoping there is a zero policy on disrespect/discrimination. Thank you.

I agree that it felt off. I feel really, deeply uncomfortable and sad seeing this.

I agree that it felt like he was dissociated most of the time, having really hard time answering questions the whole time. He was more present in the beginning, so for me it seemed like Teal’s approach to him made him split because instead of trying to understand him(Asking further on the same topic instead of changing subject many times). It’s really hard to answer questions when dissociated. For me it didn’t at all seem like he was there just to get significance. It was more a deep fear that he will be alone if he reaches for that goal and that THAT is what needed help with, to be able to go in the direction of that need. I felt really disturbed looking at that, since he didn’t get what he needed and also being shamed for “continuing taking up the stage” when just trying to understand(he kept asking questions). And IF that was a ‘subconscious manipulation’ to get his need for significance(which I don’t think it looked like but if), then why shame him for it? He got chosen to experience it in that case, celebrate it or lovingly let him go off the stage instead of shaming him for continuing? I’ feeling both disturbed and sad about this cause I think it’s extremely important that everyone is treated equally and that everyone with trauma are treated with respect. What does the Team say to this? Would definitely like to know.

It really looks and feels like to me that Teal is Shaming the Young man in the beginning. Asking different questions so the answers went all over the place and then shaming him for wanting the significance and “taking her stage”. Even if it was “manipulating”, it obviously is coming from a deep wound/need and therefore should be understood(and maybe even celebrated?) that he got the need, got what he wanted from getting up on the stage that day. Why shaming that by saying such things? I felt very uncomfortable and actually sad and angry, about that.

Wow! What an amazing list you put together! Thank you x

Thanks a lot for the validation! The struggle is real since I don’t know how to go forward and get the help I need. Thanks for reaching out. x

Thanks for the support!!!:) What do you mean out of control here?

I blame my parents for not seeing me or helping Me. I especially feel angry with my dad since he he’s blaming me for demanding to come here(to live with him) even though He know this was my only option to be able to survive, literally(I’m sick and also have no income). I blame him for not treating me like a person, with needs and wants. That he decides on whether I can have my needs met, which makes me feel unsafe and scared. So yeah, definitely blaming him for feeling that. I also blame my mum for her not taking in critisism(turns it back on me very quickly), cause I really need her to know how I’ve been affected so I can have a better relationship with her and also so she can actually help me. I also see that if I would’ve had more strong and solid boundaries, It wouldn’t have gotten this far. Gonna try to be more solid(though it’s so hard as I’m sick and barely want to continue), and try to reach my mum again about how I feel and what I need. I’m so scared I won’t be able to do it/not do it properly though. Wish me luck, thanks. 🌸

Thank you for the realness <3