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Im having a really tough time in college currently. I am going to University in September to study psychology because it is something I love and am passionate about, but with the information I have can I really become a 'scientific' psychologist or a psychiatrist? Of course it's just a degree but I like to think ahead..I like to think about my future career etc. I cannot work a 9-5 job and I don't feel like settling for a bog standard office job. I feel like I can help people, but I don't feel like I can do this effectively working as a psychologist or a psychiatrist because these days they just prescribe pills for people! I have a lot of information that I want to share but I am being forced into a system that requires me to work a 9-5!!! How do you guys go about your daily lives with all of this information? I'm learning all of this bullshit for a degree when I can just get the information by doing shadow work, meditation, astral projection, reading books and by getting in touch with my emotions. Please help me! 

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There are plenty of applications of the knowledge and the qualification you'll get doing a Psychology degree! The important thing to understand (that surprisingly few people do, going into the course) is that a psychology degree is not a route to counselling. It's geared toward research, and forget psychiatry, because you only get to do that after a medical degree. If you do end up enjoying the course (and are able to detach slightly from the material, which you may find reductive or even harmful in its current understanding of the mind) you should be able to synthesise what you've learned from the mainstream and the metaphysical, and of course there are plenty of practices that specialise in alternative psychological therapies and practices, not to mention the option of starting one's own, of course. On top of this, people seeking alternative counselling are more and more likely these days to connect with a therapist online (e.g The Completion Process!), making office hours moot.

The bullshit you'll be learning from your degree won't really be about analysing yourself (though of course that is likely to be a side-effect), but about what current research is saying, and how to create experiments of your own, so it's really not comporable to what you'll get from meditation and shadow work. There is absolutely no reason in my opinion why, knowing what you want (or at least do not want), you will have to settle for a boring office job. Look into the kinds of people doing the work you find the most helpful and effective, and pursue the ideas, techniques, and people themselves. Maybe they'll have something helpful to say to someone wanting to get into the profession too!

You, in the end, will be creating the future of whatever practice you decide to go into--nobody can force you into a system you don't agree with, there are just too many options if you really look! And remember that the further you go into higher education, the more freedom you have in what you study. You just have to play the long game and not take the "bullshit" too personally. Knowing that it doesn't have to form your beliefs or how you treat patients, it should be an easier pill to swallow, as it were. Let this degree form a knowledgeable foundation for your own inquiry, and ultimately help you to get a job.

Good luck, and congatulations on starting uni! Where are you going?

PS. the professions ultimately pursued by people with pyschology degrees are wildly varied and often unrelated to the medical field at all! No way in hell do you HAVE to be a pill-pusher, just because you got one. (You're also not legally allowed to be, unless you're a doctor.)

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4 hours ago, Matt16 said:

My Purpose

Im having a really tough time in college currently. I am going to University in September to study psychology because it is something I love and am passionate about, but with the information I have can I really become a 'scientific' psychologist or a psychiatrist? Of course it's just a degree but I like to think ahead..I like to think about my future career etc. I cannot work a 9-5 job and I don't feel like settling for a bog standard office job. I feel like I can help people, but I don't feel like I can do this effectively working as a psychologist or a psychiatrist because these days they just prescribe pills for people! I have a lot of information that I want to share but I am being forced into a system that requires me to work a 9-5!!! How do you guys go about your daily lives with all of this information? I'm learning all of this bullshit for a degree when I can just get the information by doing shadow work, meditation, astral projection, reading books and by getting in touch with my emotions. Please help me! 

you can be a spiritual life coach, and you can even meet one in your area so they can give you the steps to become one, people have that job now, we want to pretend like this spiritual education isn't a education but it is, a education straight from your higher self and life is a huge lesson also, the inner guidance is real. Also psychology ignores the spiritual aspect, like yada yada yada these are all belief systems, fuck this book, your telling me some shit I already know and if I'm getting this information outside of me it becomes a belief system of mine and I take pride in all the books I've read in school, meanwhile you read a bunch of belief systems and other peoples perspectives on it, when your higher self is just waiting for you to connect with it. Also by law you cant say you can heal someone, so that right there plants a seed in people you just saying that to them... go see a doctor before coming to me with this "spiritual" stuff, they have to say that, so it makes it seem like spirituality isn't real a valid and because the brain is so strong it sort of confirms it that we cant heal ourselves. I don't know all the loop holes or rules, but you are still playing in this system with "laws" I think you have to be an ordained minister or certified in something, I could be wrong but you have to have these sorts of labels by law to do this kind of work, its kind of ridiculous. Contact someone doing your dream job, they'll give you the steps.

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6 hours ago, Matt16 said:

I'm learning all of this bullshit for a degree when I can just get the information by doing shadow work, meditation, astral projection, reading books and by getting in touch with my emotions. Please help me! 

A degree should give a greater breadth of knowledge than just your own shadow work, meditation and getting in touch with your emotions.  People are remarkably similar but we don't all have all of the problems listed in the DSM.  

It has long been my opinion that a person should get the minimum training that gives credibility in the field and then get a job and start doing it.   Depending on what exactly you want to do, the minimum training you need might be a PhD!

And as far as getting a 9 to 5 job.  Frankly it is more likely to be 9 to 5:30 or longer.  Best to find something you enjoy.  If you work for yourself then you can set your own hours.

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On one hand you say that you enjoy the degree then you say you're learning all this bullshit. I think like this - like if I did something to someone they would fulfill my needs. I think you need to honestly ask yourself if the course is fulling to you from a joy point of view or would you feel happier reading psychology on the side. Study something that will make you happy. I dont want to assume but you seem to be after the dollar and a free /flexible job - which is perfectly acceptable ! Go for it ! 

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40 minutes ago, Lp15 said:

On one hand you say that you enjoy the degree then you say you're learning all this bullshit. I think like this - like if I did something to someone they would fulfill my needs. I think you need to honestly ask yourself if the course is fulling to you from a joy point of view or would you feel happier reading psychology on the side. Study something that will make you happy. I dont want to assume but you seem to be after the dollar and a free /flexible job - which is perfectly acceptable ! Go for it ! 

 I don't think I fully explained myself properly...understanding the human mind in terms of belief systems, healing, and the law of attraction (which I believe to be psychology because ultimately it is the mind doing all of this) but of course a degree in psychology would be looking at the detailed scientific aspects of the brain...but it's the closest I can possibly get to what I enjoy! I don't know about you but I don't think people are getting the right treatment nowadays because people are just getting pills to mask the symptoms and not getting to the root of the problem, and I feel without some degree of spiritual practice (shadow work, meditation etc) nobody can truly heal...my point was, as a psychologist or counsellor I wouldn't be able to advise clients to take up spiritual practice because like I said psychologists nowadays tend to diagnose clients and give them pills.

i appreciate the reply, Thankyouu!

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Investigate the types of therapy being practiced today.   

I know a psychiatric nurse practitioner who can prescribe medicine but also uses a type of therapy called psychodynamics. I'm sure there are lots of types of therapies.

Get the credentials you need to do the type of therapy you want.  I think being a certified Completion Process practitioner would be  a great thing and could help a great number of people but my worry is that such a person might not recognize when they are in over their head.   However, my suspicion is that the training includes HOW to help people through the Process and also when NOT to use the Process. 

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12 hours ago, mayablue said:

There are plenty of applications of the knowledge and the qualification you'll get doing a Psychology degree! The important thing to understand (that surprisingly few people do, going into the course) is that a psychology degree is not a route to counselling. It's geared toward research, and forget psychiatry, because you only get to do that after a medical degree. If you do end up enjoying the course (and are able to detach slightly from the material, which you may find reductive or even harmful in its current understanding of the mind) you should be able to synthesise what you've learned from the mainstream and the metaphysical, and of course there are plenty of practices that specialise in alternative psychological therapies and practices, not to mention the option of starting one's own, of course. On top of this, people seeking alternative counselling are more and more likely these days to connect with a therapist online (e.g The Completion Process!), making office hours moot.

The bullshit you'll be learning from your degree won't really be about analysing yourself (though of course that is likely to be a side-effect), but about what current research is saying, and how to create experiments of your own, so it's really not comporable to what you'll get from meditation and shadow work. There is absolutely no reason in my opinion why, knowing what you want (or at least do not want), you will have to settle for a boring office job. Look into the kinds of people doing the work you find the most helpful and effective, and pursue the ideas, techniques, and people themselves. Maybe they'll have something helpful to say to someone wanting to get into the profession too!

You, in the end, will be creating the future of whatever practice you decide to go into--nobody can force you into a system you don't agree with, there are just too many options if you really look! And remember that the further you go into higher education, the more freedom you have in what you study. You just have to play the long game and not take the "bullshit" too personally. Knowing that it doesn't have to form your beliefs or how you treat patients, it should be an easier pill to swallow, as it were. Let this degree form a knowledgeable foundation for your own inquiry, and ultimately help you to get a job.

Good luck, and congatulations on starting uni! Where are you going?

PS. the professions ultimately pursued by people with pyschology degrees are wildly varied and often unrelated to the medical field at all! No way in hell do you HAVE to be a pill-pusher, just because you got one. (You're also not legally allowed to be, unless you're a doctor.)

Amazing response thank you so much! My original idea was to combine the metaphysical information I have into the field of psychology and just see where I end up..I do really love psychology but when I refer to the 'bullshit' parts I am talking mostly about 'political psychology' which bores me to shit! But yeah you've given me some new perspective on this so Thankyou! Also I'm going to University of Kent (UK) which is for like 3 years, and I'll probably be meditating in my room whilst people are out until 4am getting hammered lol! Thanks for the response :-) 

9 hours ago, Alex7 said:

you can be a spiritual life coach, and you can even meet one in your area so they can give you the steps to become one, people have that job now, we want to pretend like this spiritual education isn't a education but it is, a education straight from your higher self and life is a huge lesson also, the inner guidance is real. Also psychology ignores the spiritual aspect, like yada yada yada these are all belief systems, fuck this book, your telling me some shit I already know and if I'm getting this information outside of me it becomes a belief system of mine and I take pride in all the books I've read in school, meanwhile you read a bunch of belief systems and other peoples perspectives on it, when your higher self is just waiting for you to connect with it. Also by law you cant say you can heal someone, so that right there plants a seed in people you just saying that to them... go see a doctor before coming to me with this "spiritual" stuff, they have to say that, so it makes it seem like spirituality isn't real a valid and because the brain is so strong it sort of confirms it that we cant heal ourselves. I don't know all the loop holes or rules, but you are still playing in this system with "laws" I think you have to be an ordained minister or certified in something, I could be wrong but you have to have these sorts of labels by law to do this kind of work, its kind of ridiculous. Contact someone doing your dream job, they'll give you the steps.

Exactly! I love Psychology but I just felt as though spiritual information is pushed aside in this particular  field. I'll probably use the degree to expand my knowledge but yeah spiritual coaching sounds awesome. I just had a look and I have absolutely no idea there where so many around my area lol! Of course lots of us feel isolated in terms of how we perceive the world compared to others who have yet to awaken to the truth of their higher self. I'll look into it...thanks bro! 

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On 5/24/2017 at 5:59 PM, Matt16 said:

My Purpose

Im having a really tough time in college currently. I am going to University in September to study psychology because it is something I love and am passionate about, but with the information I have can I really become a 'scientific' psychologist or a psychiatrist? Of course it's just a degree but I like to think ahead..I like to think about my future career etc. I cannot work a 9-5 job and I don't feel like settling for a bog standard office job. I feel like I can help people, but I don't feel like I can do this effectively working as a psychologist or a psychiatrist because these days they just prescribe pills for people! I have a lot of information that I want to share but I am being forced into a system that requires me to work a 9-5!!! How do you guys go about your daily lives with all of this information? I'm learning all of this bullshit for a degree when I can just get the information by doing shadow work, meditation, astral projection, reading books and by getting in touch with my emotions. Please help me! 

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